March 2, 2026

Kim Brandt, CMS COO, on Protecting America’s Medicare Beneficiaries & Second City’s Kelly Leonard on the Art of Improv and Leadership Without a Script

March 2, 2026

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In the debut episode of Inside View by NPHI, Tom and Carole launch the podcast with two candid conversations about leadership and responsibility in healthcare. Kim Brandt, Deputy Administrator and COO at CMS, joins them to discuss protecting Medicare beneficiaries and ensuring patients receive appropriate care from legitimate providers. She speaks directly about enforcement efforts and what accountability means for patients and families. The episode then turns to Kelly Leonard, legendary executive of Second City, who explores how improvisation shapes leadership in complex environments and why responding in real time, without a script, is a skill healthcare leaders rely on every day.

What's in this episode?

Introducing Inside View by NPHI with Tom & Carole
Kim Brandt - Deputy Administrator & COO, CMS
Kelly Leonard on Leading Like an Improviser
Mission Moment from NPHI member HopeHealth

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Tom, Carole & Kelly Leonard discuss Kelly’s book “Yes, And”

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Guest 1 - Kim Brandt

🎙 04:16 — Holding the Line on Hospice Integrity: Kim Brandt on CMS enforcement and ensuring patients receive the right care at the right time

Kim Brandt, Deputy Administrator & COO at CMS, joins Tom and Carole for a candid conversation on protecting the Medicare hospice beneficiaries and strengthening program integrity.

She discusses CMS’s action against fraud and profiteering, concerns about providers not delivering all required levels of care, and the agency’s focus on ensuring beneficiaries receive the right care at the right time. Kim also explains how CMS is working to make sure patients understand when they are enrolled in hospice, what services they should expect, and the questions caregivers should be asking.

A clear look at accountability, oversight, and safeguarding patients at a vulnerable time.

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Guest 2 - Kelly Leonard

🎙 25:02 — Leading Like an Improviser: Kelly Leonard on Second City, leadership, and why care relies on improv

Legendary Second City executive Kelly Leonard — who helped hire and develop talents like Tina Fey, Amy Poehler, Stephen Colbert, and Steve Carell — joins Tom and Carole for a conversation on improvisation and leadership in healthcare.

In improv, there is no script. You step on stage and respond in real time to what is unfolding in front of you. Kelly explores how that same mindset can help caregivers and healthcare leaders navigate uncertainty and high-stakes moments with greater confidence and clarity.

From building trust through deep listening to embracing the power of “yes, and,” he shares why improvisation is about adaptability and leading when the next line hasn’t been written yet.

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March 2, 2026

Kim Brandt, CMS COO, on Protecting America’s Medicare Beneficiaries & Second City’s Kelly Leonard on the Art of Improv and Leadership Without a Script

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What's in this episode?

Introducing Inside View by NPHI with Tom & Carole
Kim Brandt - Deputy Administrator & COO, CMS
Kelly Leonard on Leading Like an Improviser
Mission Moment from NPHI member HopeHealth

Resources in this episode

Tom, Carole & Kelly Leonard discuss Kelly’s book “Yes, And”

Watch on YouTube

Guest 1 - Kim Brandt

🎙 04:16 — Holding the Line on Hospice Integrity: Kim Brandt on CMS enforcement and ensuring patients receive the right care at the right time

Kim Brandt, Deputy Administrator & COO at CMS, joins Tom and Carole for a candid conversation on protecting the Medicare hospice beneficiaries and strengthening program integrity.

She discusses CMS’s action against fraud and profiteering, concerns about providers not delivering all required levels of care, and the agency’s focus on ensuring beneficiaries receive the right care at the right time. Kim also explains how CMS is working to make sure patients understand when they are enrolled in hospice, what services they should expect, and the questions caregivers should be asking.

A clear look at accountability, oversight, and safeguarding patients at a vulnerable time.

Preview

Guest 2 - Kelly Leonard

🎙 25:02 — Leading Like an Improviser: Kelly Leonard on Second City, leadership, and why care relies on improv

Legendary Second City executive Kelly Leonard — who helped hire and develop talents like Tina Fey, Amy Poehler, Stephen Colbert, and Steve Carell — joins Tom and Carole for a conversation on improvisation and leadership in healthcare.

In improv, there is no script. You step on stage and respond in real time to what is unfolding in front of you. Kelly explores how that same mindset can help caregivers and healthcare leaders navigate uncertainty and high-stakes moments with greater confidence and clarity.

From building trust through deep listening to embracing the power of “yes, and,” he shares why improvisation is about adaptability and leading when the next line hasn’t been written yet.

Preview

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Welcome to Inside View by NPHI with Tom & Carole
Kim Brandt, Deputy Administrator, COO at CMS
Kelly Leonard

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